this is in nevada and, of course, we all know senator harry reid is certainly a very powerful figure in the united states congress. but there actually were, if i'm not mistaken, some scientific studies that raised questions about, to that. we took the position in "forever more" you shouldn't put any of this stuff in the ground, any of the high-level stuff. yeah, it's supposedly safe, but things can happen. tectonic movements over time. best to keep it aboveground one way or another or somewhere where you can see what's going on, where you can control it. and that went totally against the prevailing wisdom at the time. and we just felt based on the simple examples that were out there, every time -- we want to bury this stuff so we don't have to think about it. buzz that's not the thing to do because it raises all kinds of concerns down the line in years and' ons that we don't even know what's going to happen. so keep it in sight. it's, to our way of thinking, a better way to deal with it. >> host: ron e-mails in: during the recent recession and housing crash, the only area where housi